Subject: Alif counts - a symbol of blind faith and conjecturing of believers in the code

When believers in the code are faced with serious and objective critic of their claims that "counts of initials are a part and a basis for the theory of code 19" and when it is proved to them that there is nothing significant in regards counts of initials and 19 divisibility they restort to various "smart" tactics to resolve these difficulties in their theory. When faced with the fact that and that many of initials/sets do not come as multiple of 19 (both alif as well as "non-alif")and that in the best case they have only a few of 19 divisible counts/sums of initials/sets(what is apsolutelly inside the law of probability and what is normal statistical vartiation) and that many of initials/sets do not come as multiple of 19, they start to invent numerous smart excuses for it...they found this or that reason for not having all the counts 19 divisible... One of the excuses for alif initialed chapters/sets of initials being not 19 divisible is that:

1."It is hard to count them and get correct counts. It is actually an enormous task cause there is about 17000 alifs in alif-initialed chapters and it is is very easy to omit the letter or two beacuse of the shape of the letter etc." 2."It is quite natural because we have not yet obtained the correct counts of alifs(a letter of arabic alfabet)". That is because counts of alifs vary from script to script, but counts in "original" Quran were surely19 divisible." (Click here to read the whole article in which this excuse is discussed: Rational monotheism or Conjectural politheism )

3. It is not quite sure if hamzah(a form of alif) should be counted or not...

4. Some other reasons...

Some of them proimised to do future research to obtain all counts 19 divisible cause they "strongly believe"(?!) that they should be 19 divisible. In fact this was the plan of Rashad himself, as stated by Edip Yuksel-his close companion, in his Book "Runing like zebras", after errors in Rashads counts were indicated by his critics. But all this is nothing but a pure conjecturing without having any basis or knowledge about it. Opinion that alif counts one day in the future must be 19 divisible is a conjecture par exallance and it has NO BASIS IN COUNTS OF OTHER-"NON-ALIF"- INITIALS after 30 years of counting...They have forgot that it is not only alifs counts that are not 19 divisible...nothing in counts of other initials suggests that alif counts should be 19 divisible. Many of initials/sets do not come out as multiple of 19 no matter if they do not contains alifs. People should get rid of that dream and conjecture.... 30 years was not enough to get alif counts 19 divisible...

Is it so hard for Edip for example(one the strongest proponent of the code at internet)to take 10 of his best friends and to sit for a month somewhere, count letters and get alif counts 19 divisible???

No, but their count is not 19 divisible...so it is beter to keep repeating that:"one day when we will make research we will get them 19 divisible....". Why 10 years after Khalifa`s death none get these counts 19 divisible? 10 years people??????!!!! When you will wake up??!!! Edip now probably look for some smart way to make them 19 divisible (you know-exclude this include that form etc nonsense). I propheciese that whoever find some smart way of such excluding and including he is candidate No 1 for being a new messenger... Remember, while "messenger of covenant" counted, he always counted hamzah(a form of alif), and now when the people saw that it does not works, they suddenly change opinion and consider that it should not be counted... and they accuse sunnies of making disorder with hamzah...But if it could produce 19 divisibility all of believers in the code would claim the divine nature of hamzah... tomorow they will invent and find some new trick and a new way if they do not get 19 divisibility this way...

Recently i came across a new pearl... I found out that abu jamil fromQ-zone diferentiate more than one form of hamza(form of alif)and he argue that some form of hamza maybe should be counted...

When they will understand that letters of quran are not intended for counting but for forming words and sentences which should be pondered upon ???

Alif counts are symbol of blind faith of believers in the code and represent the best example of "what about is code 19 doctrine"-conjecturing without having any basis in reality.... sweat dreams,wishfull thinking. Remember, according Quran, conjecture is of no benefit to the truth, and remember conjecture is not substitution for the truth... Here are a few question for those who believe that counts of alifs as well as other letters must be 19 divisible: WHERE AND WHEN God has informed you that alif counts as well as all other counts must be 19 divisible?

Do you have some knowledge from God about it or you just conjecture?

Do not you know that many of non alif-sets/initials are not 19 divisible??

If you are aware of this fact then why do you assume that alif counts must be 19 divisible?

Who gaves you the authority? How do you judge?? Do you have a proof ? Do you have a book in which you learn? Bring you book if you are truthfull!